John LE STRANGE
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1306 - Blakemere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Christening:
Death: 21 Jul 1349 - Shropshire, England ( at age 43)
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Ankeret LE BOTELER (Abt 1310 - 8 Oct 1361)
Marriage: 20 May 1327 - England
Status:
Children:
1. Elizabeth LE STRANGE ( -Abt 1362)
Notes
Research:
2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Strange-211
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Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]
1306 Birth and Parents
"Son and heir, aged 18 at his father's death. [12]
Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere was born on 25 January 1306 at of Blackmere, Corfham, Wrockwardine, Sutton Maddock, & Cheswardine, Shropshire, England.[3][4][8]
He was born 25 January 1306 [13]
He was the son of Fulk le Strange, 1st Lord Strange of Blackmere, Seneschal of Aquitaine [3][4][8] b. c 1267, d. bt 1 Feb 1323 - 1324
His mother was Eleanor Giffard [3][4][8] b. 1275, d. b 23 Jan 1325
1325 Wardship of Father's Lands
On 1 Aug 1325 the wardship of his father's lands was committed to him upon payment of £400 yearly. [12]
1326 Proved Age
On 26 Feb 1326/7 he had proved his age and done homage, and was to have seisin. [12]
1327 Marriage to Ankaret
A settlement for the marriage Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere and Ankaret le Boteler was made before 1327.[13]
He married Ankaret, daughter of William Butler of Wem, Salop., and sister and coheir of Edward Butler.[1][12][14]
Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere and Ankaret le Boteler obtained a marriage license on 20 May 1327.[4][8]
1330 Summoned to Parliament
He was sum. to Parl. from 23 Oct 1330 (4 Edw. III) to 20 Apr 1344 (18 Edw. III) by writs directed Johanni Lestraunge and on 1 Jan and 10 Mar 1348/9 (23 Edw. III) by writs directed Johanni Lestraunge of Blackmere. [12]
1332 Commissions for Salop
In 1332 and thereafter he was in commissions for Salop. [12]
1337 Executor of Cousin's Will
In 1337, described as of Blanmouster (Whitechurch) he was an executor of the will of his cousin Eubolo Lestrange. [12]
1346 With King to Normandy
In 1346 he accompanied the King to Normandy and was at Crecy and Calais. [12] Sir John Lestraunge of Whitchurch fought at the battle of Crécy, Ponthieu, on 26 August, 1346. He was a Banneret in the second division which was under the command of the earls of Northampton and Arundel.[15]
1349 Death
He died 21 Jul 1349. [12][13]
Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere died on 21 July 1349 at of Badgeworth, Gloucestershire, England, at age 43.[3][4][8]
Remarriage of Widow
Ankaret survived him and apparantly married 2ndly, Sir Thomas De Ferrers. She died 8 Oct. 1361." [12]
Elizabeth (Strange) de L'Isle. Wikitree: No date, Blackmere, Herefordshire Maude (Strange) Warenne born 1324, Blackmere, Herefordshire Eleanor (Strange) de Grey, born 1328 Knockin, Salopshire John (Strange) le Strange born 1331, Whitechurch, Shropshire Fulk (Strange) le Strange , born 1332, Longnor, Shropshire
Issue
They had 3 sons, Fulk, John and Hamon, and 3 daughters, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Alice. [8]
Fulk le Strange, 3rd Lord Strange of Blackmere, b. 2 Feb 1330/1331, d. 30 Aug 1349 [1][8][4][16][17]
Sir John le Strange, 4th Lord Strange of Blackmere, b. c 19 Apr 1332, d. 12 May 1361ref name="CPXII"/>[18][8][4][19]
Eleanor, wife of Sir Reynold, 2nd Lord Grey of Ruthin; [3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11] Alianore le Strange [20] [21]born Knockyn, Shropshire [22] d. 20 Apr 1396
Hamon le Strange[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][23]
Elizabeth le Strange, wife of Edmund, 3rd Lord St. John, of Sir Gerard, 1st Lord Lisle, & of Sir Richard Pembridge; [3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11] born Cleckmore, Herefordshire, no date [22][24]
Alice, wife of Sir Edmund de Handlo).[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
Inquisition Post Mortem of John Le Straunge 1349
Inquisition Post Mortem of John Le Straunge of Whytchurche following a Writ, of 27 July, 23 Edward III [1349].[25]
He held lands in Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, the County of Southampton, and Salop. The Manor of Whitchurch and other lands in Shropshire were held jointly with his wife Ankareta.
He was recorded variously as having died on Tuesday the morrow of St. Margaret last; on 20 July last; and on Monday after the Translation of St. Thomas the Martyr last.
Fulk Lestraunge his son was his heir. He was recorded as aged 18 years at the feast of the Purification last, and also as aged 19 years.
Research Notes
Disputed Child
Mathilda (or Maud) le Strange born 1324, Blackmere is sometimes shown as the daughter of Sir John le Strange. [22]
Lewis reports that Mathilda Strange married Griffin Warren, son of John Warren and Ellena Charleton. Mathilda Strange was born at of Blackmere, Shropshire, England [26]
Lewis also reports that "This daughter is not known to Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 109. [27]
Sources
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 The Complete Peerage, or a History of the House of Lords and all its members from the earliest times. Vol. XII Part 1: Skelmersdale to Towton. 1953, Strange pp 343-344 Family Search.
? Unknown author, The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 121. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 3.8 Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 109. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 208. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 180-181. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 272-273. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 304-305. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 373. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 125. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 440-441. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 320-321. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition, 2011
? 13.0 13.1 13.2 Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? William le Butiller of Wem to settle his manor of Dodington on himself for life, with remainder to John Lestraunge of Whitchurch (Blankmostier) and Ankareta his wife and the heirs of their bodies, remainder to the right heirs of the said William, retaining two-thirds of the manors of Wem and Hinstock. Salop. 1 Edward III (1327-1328). C 143/192/20. National Archives.
? Major-General The Hon. George Wrottesley, "Crecy and Calais", Collections for a History of Staffordshire Volume XVIII, The William Salt Archaeological Society, (1897), 31. e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/collectionsforhi18stafuoft/page/31/mode/1up : accessed 30 June, 2022).
? Wrottesley G (1905?) Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls Collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office. p.125-126 [1].
? Collections for a History of Staffordshire. Vol. XIII, 1892, p123 [2].
? Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 109-110.Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? A. E. Stamp, E. Salisbury, E. G. Atkinson and J. J. O'Reilly, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 129', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 10, Edward III (London, 1921), pp. 171-194. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol10/pp171-194 [accessed 19 May 2020]. Proof of age. Item 203.
? Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 620.Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 101.Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? 22.0 22.1 22.2 Wiki Data Field, subject to review and revision
? Calendar of the Patent Rolls. Richard II. 1381-1385. HMSO 1897, p33 [3].
? Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 209. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? J. E. E. S. Sharp, E. G. Atkinson, J. J. O'Reilly and G. J. Morris, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 98', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 9, Edward III (London, 1916), pp. 211-233. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol9/pp211-233 [accessed 15 May 2020]. Inquisition Post Mortem of John Le Straunge. Item 223.
? Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
? Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 101.Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Sir John le Strange Our Royal Titled Noble and Commoner Ancestors Last edited 1 Feb, 2014. Accessed November 18, 2017.
See also:
Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999. Page: 8-32 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE 8-32
Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999. Page: 2506
Elizabeth LISLE
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1350 - England
Christening:
Death: unknwn
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Gerard LISLE (Abt 1304-Abt 1360)
Mother: Elizabeth LE STRANGE ( -Abt 1362)
Spouses and Children
1. *Sir Edmund STONOR (Abt 1346 - 25 Apr 1382)
Marriage: Abt 1365 - England
Status:
Children:
1. Ralph STONOR (1372-1394)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lisle-587
Biography
Elizabeth was born about 1350. She is the daughter of Gerard Lisle and Elizabeth Strange.
Elizabeth, was the wife of Sir Edmund Stonor.[1] [2]
The wife of Edmund Stonor seems to have been a sister of Waryn de L'Isle. By her he had three sons, Edmund, who died before him, John and Ralph, and one daughter Elizabeth.[3]
Sources
? Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 209.
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 440-441.
? The Stonor Letters and Papers Vol. 1 by Royal Historical Society (Great Britain); Royal Historical Society (Great Britain). Camden third series Publication date (1900-63) [https://archive.org/details/publications29royauoft/page/n25/mode/1up Vol 1 Page xviii
Gerard LISLE
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1304 - Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England
Christening:
Death: Abt 9 Jun 1360 - Stowe, Northamptonshire, England ( aged about 56)
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Elizabeth LE STRANGE (Unknown - Abt 15 Sep 1362)
Marriage: 29 Jul 1349
Status:
Children:
1. Elizabeth LISLE (Abt 1350- )
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lisle-57
Biography
Gerald was born about 1304 the son and heir of Sir Warin de Lisle, of Kingston Lisle in the parish of Sparsholt, Berkshire, Keeper of Windsor Castle, by his wife Alice le Tyeys, daughter of Henry le Tyeys, 1st Lord Tyeys. Aged 23 in Feb 1327, age 40+ in 1350.[1]
He was an English nobleman and soldier during King Edward III's campaigns in Scotland and France.
After 3 Dec 1329 he married firstly Eleanor de Arundel, daughter of Sir Edmund de Arundel, 9th Earl Arundel and Alice de Warren. They had 4 sons.[2]
Warin
Richard
Gerard
Edmund
Before 29 Jul 1349 he married secondly Elizabeth le Strange, daughter of Sir John le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange of Blackmere and Ankaret le Boteler. A settlement for the marriage was made on 1 July 1351; They had the following children[3] [4]
Richard (See IPM)
Henry (See IPM)
Elizabeth, wife of Sir Edmund Stonor
Sir Gerard de Lisle fought at the battle of Crécy, Ponthieu, on 26 August, 1346. He was a Banneret in the second division which was under the command of the earls of Northampton and Arundel.[5]
1358 Grant to Gerard de Insula that he may pay by instalments of 25 marks at the Exchequer at Easter and Michaelmas next and Easter and Michaelmas following the 100 marks which he undertook before the king and council to pay in the king's chamber on a certain day now past for a pardon to him and Elizabeth, his wife, late the wife of Edmund de Sancto Johanne, who held in chief, of their trespass in intermarrying without licence[6]
He held various lands with Elizabeth his wife, who survived him and who held the lands by way of dower after the death of Edmund de Sancto Johanne, her former husband.
The manor of Fretewell, Oxfordshire he held jointly with Richard his son. Lands in Heighworth [Highworth], Wiltshire he held jointly with Elizabeth his wife and Henry their son.
1360 He was stated variously to have died on 9 June, 15 June, 16 June, and on Wednesday before St. John the Baptist (18th Jun). His heir was his son Warin de Insula who was stated variously to be aged 24, 26, 27 and 30. (See IPM)
IPM Summary
607.Gerard de Insula. Writ, 10 June, 34 Edward III. (1360) [7][8]
Sussex. Walberton. The manor held with Elizabeth his wife, who survives and who holds it for life by way of dower after the death of Edmund de Sancto Johanne, her former husband. Gerard died on 16 June last. Warin de Insula, knight, his son, aged 30 years and more, is his heir.
Oxford Fretewell. The manor, whereof he was enfeoffed jointly with Richard his son, held of Robert de Insula. He died on 9 June last. Warin his son, aged 24 years and more, is his heir.
Southampton. Bromlegh. The manor held for the life of Elizabeth his wife, who survives, of her dower by the endowment of Edmund, son and heir of Hugh de Sancto Johanne. Abbodeston. The manor held of the abbot of Hyde. Gerard held for the life of the said Elizabeth 13 1/2 knights' fees with the advowsons of the church of Abbodeston and the chapel of [Ba]syng
Wiltshire Chilton Foliot. The manor, with the advowson of the church, whereof the said Gerard was enfeoffed jointly with Elizabeth his wife, held of Edward, duke of Cornwall. Cherlton by Hungerford. Fersshedon by Esthrop in the hundred of Heighworth. A messuage, lands etc enfeoffed jointly with Elizabeth his wife and Henry their son, who survives, held of the countess of Aumale
Berkshire. Kyngeston de Lisle. The manor held of Robert de Lisle of Rougemount, Fauelore. Buden. Uplambourne. Hordewell. The manor, in Ordeston, enfeoffed jointly with Elizabeth his wife.
NorthamptonStowe and Kyselyngbury. The manors held of William de Kerdynton, knight. Pesemere. Warin de Insula his son, aged 27 years and more at Easter last, is his heir.
Cornwall. Alwerton and Tuernayl. The manors, enfeoffed with Elizabeth his wife. He died on Wednesday before St. John the Baptist the year aforesaid. Warin de Insula his son, aged 24 years and more, is his heir.
York. Brakene. Gerard de Insula, late lord of Brakene, held nothing of the king in chief, but he held the manor of Brakene of Sir Thomas de Ros of Hamelak by knight's service. He died on 15 June 1360. Warin de Insula his son, aged 26 years, is his heir.
Research Notes
Lisle from de L'Isle (French) and [latinised de Insula] meaning 'from the Island'.
Sources
? Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 180-181.
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 604.
? Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 209.
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 440-441.
? Major-General The Hon. George Wrottesley, "Crecy and Calais", Collections for a History of Staffordshire Volume XVIII, The William Salt Archaeological Society, (1897), 31. e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/collectionsforhi18stafuoft/page/31/mode/1up : accessed 30 June, 2022).
? Calendar of the Fine rolls preserved in the Public Record Office by Great Britain. Public Record OfficePublication date 1911-1962 Vol 7 Page 79
? Calendar of inquisitions post mortem and other analogous documents preserved in the Public Record Office. Prepared under the superintendence of the deputy keeper of the records. ser.1 v.10 Page 472
? A. E. Stamp, E. Salisbury, E. G. Atkinson and J. J. O'Reilly, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 150', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 10, Edward III (London, 1921), pp. 463-478. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol10/pp463-478 [accessed 23 May 2020]. Inquisition Post Mortem of Gerard de Insula. Item 607.
See also
Wikipedia contributors, "Gerard Lisle, 1st Baron Lisle," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerard_Lisle,_1st_Baron_Lisle&oldid=1173495193 (accessed October 9, 2023).
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p531.htm#i15958
Parochial and family history of the parishes of St. Mabyn and Michaelstow in the county of Cornwall by Maclean, John, Sir, 1811-1895. 1n Publication date 1875 Descent of the Manor of Trevisquit P52
Royal Berkshire History Gerard de Lisle, Lord Lisle (1304-1360) David Nash Ford
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Ida LONGESPEE
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1208 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Christening:
Death: Bef 1270 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: William PLANTAGENET Longespee (Abt 1176-1226)
Mother: Ela SALISBURY (Abt 1190-1261)
Spouses and Children
1. *William BEAUCHAMP (Abt 1186 - After 28 Dec 1260)
Marriage: Abt Jan 1220
Status:
Children:
1. Beatrice BEAUCHAMP (1243-1285)
Bethóc MACALPIN
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: 973 - Perthshire, Scotland
Christening:
Death: 15 Sep 1049 - Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland ( at age 76)
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Crinan DUNKELD Abbot of Dunkeld (Abt 975 - 1045)
Marriage: Abt 1005
Status:
Children:
1. Duncan DUNKELD King of Scots (Abt 1010-1040)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/MacAlpin-33
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Biography
Bethóc MacAlpin is a member of House of Alpin.
Bethóc ingen Maíl Coluim meic Cináeda
"Beatrice," "Bethóc ingen Maíl Coluim meic Cináeda," "Betoch filii Malcolmi," "Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet, ' "Lady of Atholl"'
Birth and Parents
Bethóc MacAlpin was born the daughter of Malcolm II, King of Scots and his unknown wife Unknown (Leinster) . [1][2][3][4][5][6]
Children of Crínán and Bethóc
She married Crínán (or Crónán), Abbot of Dunkeld about 1005. [1][4][5][6]
According to Cawley, "Crinan & his wife had two children," [7] but Sir James Balfour Paul adds another unknown daughter. [1]
Maldred Dunkeld born about 1003 in Carlisle, Cumberland, Scotland; 1034, Regent of Strathclyde; Lord of Allerdale and Carlisle; 1040, married Ealdgyth or Ælfgifu (Northumbria) of Dunbar, daughter of Uhtred, earl of Northumbria; 1045, killed in battle [8]
Donnchad mac Crínáin, born about 1010 [9]; married Suthen or Sybilla Unknown; [10] succeeded 25 Nov 1034 as Duncan I, King of the Scots; fatally wounded at Bothnagowan, died at Elgin and buried in Iona. [11][12]
Unknown daughter Dunkeld, married Moddan, titular Earl of Caithness. [13]
Research Notes
Estimated birthdate, 973. Based on birth of 1st child in 1003 and the average female age of fertility from 16 to 44, her Likely Median Birth Year is estmated as 973.
With no supporting reliable sources the profile of Wulfflaed Atholl was disconnected as child of Crínán (or Crónán), Abbot of Dunkeld (Dún Caillen) and Bethóc MacAlpin. Perkins-11750
Sources
? 1.0 1.1 1.2 Paul, Sir James Balfour, The Scots peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom, (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1905), vol. III, 239-241.
? Cawley, Charles, Medieval Lands: a Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families, (Hereford, UK: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006), Chapter 1. KINGS of SCOTLAND 834-1034, 2. KENNETH, a) MALCOLM, i) BETHOC.
? The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, Baldwin, Stewart, ed., Farmerie, Todd, ed., Cináed mac Ailpín (Kenneth I, (Online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, 2001), citing, "Date of Birth: Unknown; Place of Birth: Unknown; Father: Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Malcolm II), d. 1034, king of Scotland; Mother: Unknown." Bethóc of Scotland
? 4.0 4.1 Anderson, Allan Orr, Early Sources of Scottish History A.D 500 to 1286, (Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1922), vol. 1, citing, "Fordun calls Bethoc " Beatrice," and says that she was the only legitimate child of Malcolm II. She was married, according to Fordun, "to a man of great vigour and power, Crinan, abthanus of Dull, and seneschal of the islands." Fordun explains that abthanus is not equivalent to abbas, but means "chief of the thanes"; his function being that of a steward or chamberlain., 576.
? 5.0 5.1 Cannon, John; Hargreaves, Anne, The Kings and Queens of Britain (Oxford Quick Reference), Kindle edition, (New York: Oxford University Press, 2004), 121. [Kindle], citing, "The absence of a male heir to Malcolm II meant that the succession passed to the issue of his daughter Bethoc, who had married Crinan, lay abbot of Dunkeld."
? 6.0 6.1 Dunbar, Sir Archibald H. Scottish Kings: A Revised Chronology of Scottish History 1005-1625. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1899), 4.
? Cawley, Charles, Medieval Lands: a Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families, (Hereford, UK: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006), Chapter 3. KINGS of SCOTLAND (DUNKELD), A. ORIGINS, citing, "The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified." Crinan.
? The Henry Project: The Ancestors of King Henry II of England, Baldwin, Stewart, ed., Farmerie, Todd, ed., Cináed mac Ailpín (Kenneth I, (Online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, 2001), citing, "Date of Birth: Unknown; Place of Birth: Unknown; Father: Mother: Unknown." Crínán (or Crónán)
? Cannon, John; Hargreaves, Anne. The Kings and Queens of Britain (Oxford Quick Reference). Kindle edition, (New York: Oxford University Press, 2004), 121. citing, "Duncan I, b. c.1010, s. of Crínán, abbot of Dunkeld, and Bethoc, da. of Malcolm II; king of Strathclyde ante 1034, king of Scotland 25 Nov. 1034\endash 40; m. a kinsw. of Siward, earl of Northumbria; issue: Malcolm, Donald, Maelmuire; d. Elgin, 14 Aug. 1040; bur. lona(?)." [Kindle]
? Cawley, Charles, Medieval Lands: a Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families, (Hereford, UK: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2006), Duncan I.
? Fordun, John, John of Fordun's Chronicle of the Scottish nation, Skene, William F. ed., (Edinburgh: Edmonston and Douglas, 1872), bk. 4, p. 179.
? Anderson, Allan Orr, Early Sources of Scottish History A.D 500 to 1286, (Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1922), vol. 1, citing, "Cf. A.U., i, 584, s.a. 1045 (with f.n. and e. of 1045) : 'A battle [was fought] between Scots, among themselves ; and in it fell Cronan, the abbot of Dunkeld.' Similarly also in A.L.C., i, 46, s.a. 1045. Cronan was a more familiar name to Irishmen than Crinan. This Crinan seems to have been the father of king Duncan. See year 1034. Duncan's grandson, Æthelred, also was an abbot of Dunkeld. See year 1093, note. This warfare was doubtless a rebellion raised against Macbeth. It may have been the same attempt against him, in which the Northumbrians took part ; and which the Annals of Durham place in 1046. See E.C., 84.", 584.
? Paul, Sir James Balfour, The Scots peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom, (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1905), vol. III, citing, "a daughter, mother of Moddan, titular Earl of Caithness, who was slain at Thurso in 1040."240.
See also:
Anderson, Marjorie O[gilvie], Kings and Kingship in Early Scotland, (Edinburgh: Berlinn, 1973), 268, 276, 284, 288.
Wikipedia contributors, Bethóc, (Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, 2023), Bethóc.
The Oxford History of the British Monarchy ,
Beatrix MÂCON
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 970 - Macon, France
Christening:
Death: After 1028 - Metz, Middle Lorraine, France
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Hugues DE PERCHE (Abt 974 - After 1 Apr 1046)
Marriage:
Status:
Children:
1. Geoffrey DE CHÂTEAU-LANDON Comte de Gâtinais (Abt 1000-1045)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/M%C3%A2con-54
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Biography
Name
Name: Béatrix (Beatrice) de Mâcon
Daughter of Aubry II, count of Mâcon presumably by his only confirmed wife Ermentrude de Roucy.
Birth
Birth: 974, Loire, Loire, Rhone-Alpes, France
Birth: 974, Macon, Loire, Rhone-Alpes, France
Birth: 974, Bourgogne, France, Seine Et Loire, France
Birth: 983, Macon, Seine Et Loire, France. Source: Record for Beatrice De Macon. Record for Beatrice Macon. Record for Geoffrey De Chateau Landon. Record for Geoffrey Counte. Record for Geoffrey Iii De Gatinais
Birth: 1015, Macon, Loire, Rhone-Alpes, France
Birth: 15 OCT 1010, Anjou, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France
Death
Death: 5 MAR 1002, Metz, Middle, Lorraine, France
Death: 5 MAR 1004, Metz, Middle, Lorraine, France
Death: 21 MAR 1076, Ouche, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
Death: 1005, Metz, Middle Lorraine, France. Source: Record for Geoffrey De Chateau Landon. Record for Geoffrey Counte
Death: 21 MAR 1076, France. Source: Record for Beatrice De Macon. Record for Beatrice Macon
Death: 21 MAR 1075, Metz, Middle, Lorraine, France
Note
Note: J-N. Mathieu also suggests this wife and mother of Gilbert's children. FMG
Marriage
Husband: Count De Gatinai Geoffrey
Wife: Beatrix De Mason
Child: Count De Gatinai And Chateau Geoffrey
Marriage: BET 978 AND 1020
Husband: Count Of Macon Aubri
Child: Beatrix De Mason
Marriage: BET 939 AND 973
Sources
Béatrice de Mâcon. FMG. (BEATRIX de Mâcon . A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Letaldus comes Vesoncius et Umbertus comes Marisconensis fratres…ex Letaldo, Albericus…ex Alberico Beatrix, ex Beatrice Gosfrido de Castello Landonensi"[59]. André de Fleury's Vita Gauzlini records that "Albericus comes Nandonensium" donated "Alodum in Altissiodorensi territorio" to Fleury and that "Beatrix Nandonensium comitissa" donated "prædia"[60]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter of her son "Albericum illius supradicti Gosfredi filium et heredum" dated 26 May 1028 (see below) approved by "fratribus ipsius Alberici, filiis Hugonis Pertice…Gosfredo et Letoldo"[61]. m firstly GEOFFROY [I] Comte de Gâtinais, son of --- (-after Nov 991). m secondly ([1000]) HUGUES du Perche, son of [FOUCOIS Comte de Mortagne & his wife Melisende Vicomtesse de Châteaudun]. Comte de Gâtinais.)
Paula MAINE
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1044 - Fleche, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
Christening:
Death: 1062 - Fleche, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ( aged about 18)
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Jean DE BEAUGENCY (Abt 1030 - Abt 1097)
Marriage: Unknown
Status:
Children:
1. Hélie BEAUGENCY de La Flèche Comte de Maine (1060-1110)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Maine-34
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Biography
She has been detached from Herbert Maine and Bertha Blois as parents. The confusion is the result of confusion in the original sources (in particular, the Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, written in the early 1100s, which is our principal primary source). There is a detailed discussion at the Henry Project (which is now located at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/paula000.htm); this discussion was written by Stewart Baldwin, a very well-respected medieval genealogist. The Henry Project comes to the conclusion that we cannot reliably determine who Paula's parents were. Two other medieval genealogy sites with somewhat less rigor (Cawley's Medieval Lands and the late Leo de Pas' Genealogics) have Paula as the daughter of your Herbert Maine and an unknown wife (though Cawley also notes some caveats).
This profile takes position 21 in the Ahnentafel of Henry II, as wife of Jean de La Flèche, and mother of his son Helias, d. 11 July 1110, lord of La Flèche and count of Maine.
The equivalent position on the Henry II website of Baldwin and Farmerie is taken by Paula.[1]
The article states that "Paula does not appear in any known contemporary document. She appears by name only in a passage of Orderic Vitalis naming the parents of Hélie de La Flèche ["Helias Iohannis et Paulæ filius, ..." OV x, 8 (vol. 5, pp. 228-9)]." (OV stands for Orderic Vitalis.)
And also it states that Herbert I "Wake Dog", the count of Maine, is only one possible father for Paula.
He was the son of Jean de la Flèche and Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine. In 1092, his cousin Hugh V sold Maine to him for 10,000 shillings. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.[2]
Sources
? http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/paula000.htm
? Wikipedia
Cawley, Charles. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Hosted online by the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG), accessed 2021, Seigneurs de Baugency
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/24279608/person/1626657627/facts
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/24279608/person/1626673027/facts
Matilda MAINWARING
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1260 - Warmingham, Chseshire, England
Christening:
Death: After 8 Jul 1316 - England
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Sir William TRUSSELL (Abt 1261 - 1317)
Marriage:
Status:
Children:
1. Sir Warren TRUSSELL (Abt 1310- )
Notes
General:
AKA: De Mainwaraing
Matilda MEOLTE
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Abt 1084 - England
Christening:
Death: Abt 1138 - Stone, Staffordshire, England ( aged about 54)
Burial: in Stone Priory
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Sheriff of Staffordshire Nicholas DE STAFFORD (Abt 1075 - 1138)
Marriage: unkown
Status:
Children:
1. Sir Robert DE STAFFORD (Abt 1107-Abt 1185)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Meolte-1
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Biography
Matilda married Nicholas de Stafford. [1]
Research Notes
Cawley gives a detailed explanation for the Unknown ancestry of Matilda (Maud). [1]
Sources
? 1.0 1.1 Cawley, Charles. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Hosted online by the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG), accessed 2023, Stafford Family.
Hildegarde METZ
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: 980 - Anjou, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France
Christening:
Death: 1 Apr 1040 - Jerusalem ( at age 60)
Burial:
Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Foulques D'ANJOU (Abt 970 - 21 Jun 1040)
Marriage: 1000 - Unknown
Status:
Children:
1. Ermengarde D'ANJOU (Abt 1018-1076)
Notes
Research:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Metz-538
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Notice of resolution of ambiguous parentage
This profile has been edited with regard to parents in accordance with principles established by the European Aristocracy user-group. Medieval genealogy is not an exact science, and digital collaborative genealogy must therefore occasionally make choices where old-fashioned print-scholarship did not have to. The parents (or lack of parents) of the person described in this profile were decided upon in consultation with primary sources especially as collected in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy's Medieval Lands project.
Biography
The correct MEDLANDS reference is http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANJOU,%20MAINE.htm#FoulquesIIIdied1040B And as of 4 October 2015 this project gave no proposed parents and had the following to say about her:
"FOULQUES d'Anjou," [...]
"m secondly (after 1000) HILDEGARD, daughter of --- (-Jerusalem 1 Apr 1046, bur Jerusalem, Church of the Holy Sepulchre). "Fulco Andegavorum comes atque Hildegardis conjunx mea" founded the monastery of La Charité Sainte-Marie d´Anjou by undated charter signed by "…Goffridi Fulconis filii…"[156]. "Fulco Andecavorum comes et uxor mea Hildegardis filius quoque noster Goffridus" donated the bridge of Mayenne to the monastery of La Charité Sainte-Marie d´Anjou by undated charter[157]. She became a nun at the Abbey of Sainte-Marie de Ronceray which she had founded in 1028. "Fulco comes Andegavensis, Iherosolimitanum iter aggrediens cum Audeardi comitissa et filii suo Goffredo Martello" donated property "in Genio...molendinum atque furnum" by undated charter[158]. "Hildegardis comitissa" relinquished rights in favour of the oratory of Toussaint by charter dated [21 Jun 1040/1 Apr 1046][159]. "Joffredus Andecavorum comes…michi matronis domna Hildgalde comitissa genitrice mea simulque conjuge mea Agnosze" donated "curte Petre" to the monastery of La Charité Sainte-Marie d´Anjou by charter 1 Oct (no year)[160]. She died while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[161]. An undated charter records the death of "comitissa Hildegardis quando viam Jerosolimitane peregrinationis" and her donation of serfs to the monastery of La Charité Sainte-Marie d´Anjou[162]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "Kal Apr" of "Ildegardis nobilis comitissa"[163]. The Chronicæ Sancti Albini records the death "1046 Kal Apr" of "Hildegardis comitissa"[164]. A charter dated to [1060/67] recites a prior donation to Saint-Aubin d'Angers by "Hildegardis comitissa", who retained a life interest in the property which, after the death of the donor, was sold in turn to "Agneti comitissa" (recording her divorce from "comitum Gaufridum"), "comitem Gaufridum…Gaufridi nepotem" and finally "fratre eius Fulconi" who restituted it to the abbey[165]. The necrology of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "Kal Apr" of "Hildegardis comitissa Andegavorum mater fundatoris nostri"[166]. The Chronicon Vindocinense records the death "Kal Apr" in 1046 of "Hildegardis religiosa comitissa Andegavensis"[167]. "
The respected medieval genealogists Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie include articles on Hildegarde's family on their Henry II website,
"Hildegarde de Lorraine, d. Jerusalem, 1 April 1046 [Martyrology of the abbey of Ronceray, quoted from Marchegay & Mabille (1869), 395, n. 3; Halphen (1906), 11; Annales de Saint-Aubin, Halphen (1903), 4 (date only), among other annals]."[1]
They state clearly that:
"The cartulary of Ronceray provides the only indication of Hildegarde's origin: "... religiosa atque piisima comitissarum, domna Hildegardis, quam scilicet ut credimus et in rebus manifestum est, omnium conditor Deus a Lothariensium partibus, de regali progenie ortam, in hos occidentales terrarum fines ad restaurationem destitutarum olim ecclesiarum perduxit ..." [Halphen (1906), 11, quoting the cartulary of Ronceray]. One plausible conjecture is that she was somehow related to the counts of Nordgau, a Lotharingian family of royal descent in which the name Hildegarde is known to have occurred [see the short discussion in Settipani (1997), 253-4]."[1]
In other words, all that can be said is that she was "Lotharingian" which is a term that covered a large part of Frankish Europe. Her parents are not known.
Sources
Settipani (1997) = Christian Settipani, "Les comtes d'Anjou et leur alliances aux Xe et XIe siècles", in K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, ed., Family Trees and the Roots of Politics (Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1997): 211-267.